Pusha T talks about Kanye West in a new interview.
Pusha T has high hopes for his project “It’s Almost Dry” to win rap album of the year at the Grammys, and the rapper sat down with XXL as the covers the magazine for the first time in his career. During the conversation, Push revealed that he is no longer the president of Kanye West’s GOOD Music label, but he’s still at Def Jam and has a 50/50 venture with the label for his own music.
The rapper also revealed that Ye is not speaking to him now after he showed his disappointment over the anti-semitic hate speech comments. “I was still on tour. I just expressed myself. I express myself to him a lot. He expressed his thoughts to me. And he got off the phone saying, “Thank you. I know you don’t agree with me, but you never kill me in the public. And some people can’t wait to do that,” he said about the last time the two had a convo. “We started working together in 2010. So, my relationship with him has never been like everybody else’s in regard to the filter. I never had a filter with him. I’ve always spoke my mind. People gotta remember, too. This isn’t new for me, when it comes to disagreeing with him politically and things like that.”
“It’s beyond that and it’s nothing to tap dance around. It’s wrong. Period,” Pusha said about Kanye West’s comments on Alex Jones’ show. “But to me, it’s just me and him having a difference of opinion yet again. ’Cause we done had this for years.”
“He’s not speaking to me now,” he added. “If you ain’t with it, you ain’t down. And I ain’t with it. I’m not budging on that. I’m not with it. I heard about this new stuff [on InfoWars]. I don’t know. It’s something that just sort of tells me he’s not well, at the same time. I will say that. It’s going to places where it’s no way to move around it.”
Pusha T was prepared to put up with sociopolitical and interpersonal conflicts before West’s activities this year in order to preserve the creative license he was all under his control. “Remember, I’m the one that said the MAGA hat is the new Klu Klux Klan hood while he’s making my album,” he said. “He beefing with [former President Barack] Obama. I met Obama. But it’s the same thing with him and the Drake thing. I’m going through this and that, he’s doing shows [with Drake].”
Pusha is continuing to release new songs, and his album It’s Almost Dry is up for Best Rap Album at the Grammys. He has been in the recording studio with Pharrell, No I.D., and Steve Lacy while collaborating on a “special mixtape.” “What I’m trying to do is restore the feeling in every aspect of this subgenre of music,” he explained. “And just of this cloth, of this taste level. I’m just trying to make people realize how viable this is. To show people that I can’t do what you do, but you definitely can’t do what I do. I have to show those differences. That’s the whole premise behind the mixtape.”
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